How We Got Out of Debt
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You've seen How we got into Debt
In the last hub you saw how we got ourselves way over our heads into debt, just a little bit at a time and ended up with no idea at all of how we could get ourselves back out.
The pressures of increasing debt, no money, two young children, and a daft dog called Henry were all taking its toll on our relationship and on our health.
The only time we seemed to have any problems at that time was over money and our views on money.
I would want to follow my mum’s way of doing things which was of not buying anything that I couldn’t pay for cash because I had witnessed at first hand how well this approach worked.
My husband's philosophy at that time was more of the 'live now pay later' leaning. My husband was a much stronger personality than I was, and still is come to that.
I always deferred to My husband after all he made the money that we lived off of and so I thought it only right that he should have the main say in how it should be spent.
No Money
Something Has To Give
Things had become so bad and we owed so much money that none of the money my husband earned was ours.
In fact we we had so much debt that we hadn’t got even enough money coming in to do anything but pay off the minimum amount on the debts that we had amassed.
When we paid the bare minimum allowed each month on the cards we were left with no money. Something had to change, something had to give we couldn’t go on like this and we couldn’t just do nothing because the situation was getting worse all the time.
We would go no further
A Line in the Sand
My husband and I had a chat and we decided that it was time to draw a line in the sand and say thus far and no further.
We knew that if we didn’t take back control of our lives and money we were going to end up with less than nothing.
We had put ourselves into a position where our house could be repossessed and all those who thought that they had a claim on our money could take it.
We had already seen some of this happening as we increasingly lost control of how to spend our own money.
We could also see that if we didn't do something soon we could end up with a bad credit rating.
With a bad credit rating our ability to survive in the modern world would be greatly diminished. In a world where mortgages and hire purchase agreements were fast becoming the norm, a bad credit rating would badly affect us.
It is one thing not to have any of these things because you do not want them but it is entirely another when you are told by someone else that you cannot have them.
No More
The Line was Drawn - No More
After talking long into the night my husband and I decided that drastic measures were called for, the first thing we acknowledged was that as long as we had any of the cards there was always the possibility that we would use them again.
There would always be something that would come up where we would be tempted to get ourselves out of a fix by using a card of one sort or another. I knew using a credit card wasn't the answer, it was an illusion, they didn’t so much give you credit but rather the ability to amass debts.
Debts that you have to repay, usually because you are in a mess you pay off the minimum so you are repaying at a much higher rate than you would ever agree to if you took the time to see how much they were going to charged you on your debts.
So that night our line in the sand was drawn we decided no more credit or store cards. So we couldn't chicken out at the first hurdle, got all our credit and shop cards together and we cut them up and threw the pieces on the fire.
With that action we made sure that spending any more on the cards was just not an option open to us no matter what the emergency.
A drastic measure? YES! Was it scary? You bet it was scary, yet it was also a liberating feeling watching the cut pieces of all the cards go up in flames; we sat there watching until there was nothing left of them at all.
We now had a Budget
The next payday we paid off as much as we could on all the cards that we owed money on. When this was done it left us nothing in our account to survive the coming month on.
We then drew out a further £30 in cash, which was the limit that our bank would allow us to go overdrawn on.
This £30 was all the cash that we would have to survive the coming month on, if we couldn't get it within our budget of £30 then we couldn't get it at all.
At last began to take back control of our lives and money, and of course the banks £30 as well.
This worked out at a £1 a day unless it was a month with thirty-one days in then it was slightly less.
I divided the £30 up so that I had so much money each Monday morning to spend that week in addition to the £30 each Tuesday I recieved my family allowance which was about a further £6.
My disposable income was £12.60p a week or £1.80p daily to feed and clothe two adults, two children and feed a daft dog called Henry.
Even in the 1970s this was too small a sum to do that, but it is surprising what you can do when necessity calls with just a little ingenuity and determination.
Reduced Items and Jumble Sales
Reduced Items Jumble Sales and Flea Markets
Now that I had a budget to live within one of the first things I did was not to buy any more branded items for example I would not buy Kellogg’s Cornflakes only the stores own cheap brand of the same item, this went across the board.
Next I found out where every supermarket in the town had their reduced items space where they put their items that were the end of a line or close to the sell by date, sometimes even some just out of date were also placed there at a much reduced price.
I also made it my business to find out when the staff usually put that kind of stuff out. Some did it early in the morning some did it late in the afternoon and I made it my business to be there as soon after they did it as possible.
Being there soon after the things were put on the reduced shelves meant that I got the choice of the best bargains of that day. I went into town to shop everyday on my bicycle sometimes I went in more than once and I would walk from one end of the town to the other just to save a few pennies.
I also went to the library and read all the local papers to see if there were any Jumble Sales advertised in the area or Flea markets and carboot sales.
If my children needed new shoes because they had grown out of their old ones then I would scour these places until found a suitable pair.
Most of the time the shoes and the clothing at the Jumble sales were in very good order as the previous owners had just grown out of them just like my children had grown out of theirs.
Now I paid anywhere between 20 and 50p for a pair of shoes instead of the £20 a pair that I had been paying when I was using the shop cards.
The Church Jumble sales we always the best the Church of England churches always had the best quality jumble.
All My Own Work
The Pyjamas
Now I am not good at sewing or making things but when my son needed some new pyjamas I had a piece of material that some one had given me and we had a sewing machine.
I didn’t even know how to thread a sewing machine but I soon learnt, my husband use to joke that I would sew a button on inside out Lol.
Any sewing to be done and it was usually my husband that did it. My husband learned to sew in the Navy of all places, plus his mother was someone that made all her own clothes and knitted all her own jumpers and cardigans etc., so he had much more idea about these things than I did.
Still not having the brains to know how hard it is to make patterns and make something from scratch I set about making my son a pair of pyjamas.
The first thing I did was to get the piece of material and folded it in half inside out. Then I placed it on the floor and made my son lie down on top of it. Then I took a felt tip pen and I drew an outline around him leaving about three-quarters of an inch extra space all around. I then sewed around the outline I had drawn twice so that the material wouldn’t fray and then hemmed the bottom of the top and the trouser bottoms and the waist leaving a space so that I could thread the elastic through the waist.
I cut around the stitching leaving about a quarter inch between the stitching and where I cut I hemmed the neck and then I turned it right side in. Much to everyone’s amazement including mine, they actually looked like pyjamas and my son loved them.
My little helper
Living Within Our Means
I would buy the cheapest cuts of meat one such cheap cut was Breast of Lamb. I would buy breast of lamb and bone it make my own stuffing mixture.
I would put the stuffing on the boned breast and then roll the breast up and tie it and roast it in the oven with potatoes around it. It was very fiddly and it took a lot of time but it tasted delicious.
Even after we got out of our financial mess we still used to have breast of lamb as it was delicious.
I had a copy of Mrs Beeton's All-About Cookery which was re-published in the 1920 and it had many money saving recipes.
This book was so much more than just a cook book it taught you how to do so many things, like mending shoes, getting rid of every kind of stain and how to manage the household servants, this last one I found particularly useful(Lol.. I wish ).
We were soon living within our means once again and some weeks much to my amazment I actually had a little left to carry over to the next week.
Debt Free At Last
One by one the cards got paid off, as each one finished we put the extra money towards paying off the next card until in the end everything was fully paid up and we owed nothing.
At long last we were debt free, it had been a long time getting here but in a way I am glad that I had to go through this.
That seems a strange thing for me to say but I say that I am glad that I went through it because I learned so much in the process. One of the most important things that I learned was not everything that I thought was a necessity was in fact a necessity.
Many of the things that I thought we could not live without we did live without, and do you know what we still lived well. Our values and priorities changed what we considered important changed also.
I am glad we got into money trouble as we found out we didn’t have to live like victims, that we were far more resourceful than we thought we were.
Strange as it seems it ended up being a very positive experience through which both my husband and I grew and our relationship strengthened.
I am not advocating that you get yourself into the mess we got ourselves into but if you are there already, be encouraged you too can take back control of your life and money and turn this thing around.
Don’t be afraid if we could do it anyone can and we loved living the way necessity first forced us to go. We loved it so much that once we were free of debt and free to choose it became it became our chosen way to live.
My husband had a couple of pay increases and we got to the point where we didn’t need to go into the red anymore. Soon we had money coming into our hands instead of all our creditors, and we could afford to buy new where we chose rather than where we could get credit.
I did buy new sometimes when I saw something that I really liked but I found so many bargains at the Jumble sales and charity shops that even when I had the choice often I would still choose to buy second hand.
Once out of debt we never put ourselves into that situation again we did get another credit card but only for convenience sake.
We use our credit card to book flights or to pay for hire cars etc., when we go on holiday. The things that we paid for on the card are then covered by insurance which has proved useful on more than one occasion.
The day after 911 we were supposed to fly out to the USA on holiday and all flights to America were cancelled we got all our money refunded because we had used our credit cards when we booked.
But now we never put anything on the card that we can’t pay off in full when the bill comes in. As we found out to our cost credit cards are good servants but very poor masters.
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I was waiting on this one! You and your husband are very disciplined. I applaud you for that! I too have been there and struggled and learned. And, I love the second hand stores!!
dori
Good job. If only governments could be so smart. Yes, the credit card is a disaster waiting to happen My in-laws never had a credit card. My family always did. which ones do you think lived a more stress free life? You betcha!
Maggie, I give you and Malc credit (no charge). Excellent hub! I'm sure this one will help many people get out of debt. Daniel
Supurb!-- this needs to be read and re-read. I loved the way you presented your first "getting in" article-- very easy to see how this can happen.
I was also waiting to hear your "outcoming". The Pyjamas story is priceless-- your son will always remember that.
I also have an old fashioned 'cook book' that tells how to do things I hope I will never have to (slaughtering and cleaning the sheep, etc) I'm not likely to have to understand the management of servants-- though, come to think of it, we do have things like washing machines and other mechanical servants today.
I particularly like the idea of credit cards being "good servants and poor masters". I also have appreciated their serviceability-- but not to the point of being indebted to them.
Wonderful, important stories for everyone.
This is a great follow-up hub to your other hub. What dedication you had to see this through to the end. Good job! Lots can be learned here.
Good advice and good life lessons. If only I had read this four years ago.
Hi Maggs. This is a good lesson from the 70s for people living in the noughties. I like your line about credit cards being good servants but poor masters. Unfortunately we have a whole generation of youngsters who have grown up believing that debt is somehow both desirable and necessary, and I'm sure it'll take another generation to turn that attitude around.
There is always something to learn from the stories shared by people around us. Yours is one of them. Thank you for sharing this. I will forward this to a friend who is having a hard time right now -debts and all. It will give another perspective, I know. Many thanks!
Nice hub maggs224. A truly uplifting story showing that it is possible to get out of debt. It requires hard work and both spouses to agree to a plan. Good job.
I am sitting here at my desk with an unopened laptop box. If I don't open it, I can return it without a restocking fee. We are so far in debt, I'm definitely in the "What the hell" camp. Reading your story makes it crystal clear what we need to do - exactly what you did. And, it should start with me taking back this laptop, but I'm not sure I can do it.
I'm so afraid of cutting up the credit cards. What if my mother gets sick? We live 3000 miles away. How will I get there? What if this and that? I'm scared. Really scared.
And yet, I know that if I don't do it, the credit card companies will do it. Eventually I will get to the end of the credit limit, and they will not increase it, and that will be that. Sometimes, I pay the credit card bills by getting cash advances from other cards. Geez. Can you believe I'm in finance? I help businesses operate in the black. Ironic, isn't it?
What a lifting and inspiring read, maggs--thank you so much for taking the time to show all of us how you conquered the debt monster--you and Malc should be so proud! :)
A most excellent hub! I've found myself in a similar situation and find that you are correct when you mention the perspective has changed. The values you had about looking at money aren't the same now as they used to be.
Thanks maggs224. I will definitely use your advice. I am a single mother struggling under a mountain of debt. I have taken the first step of not using credt cards but I haven't cut them up yet. I will gather courage and chop them up. I will let you know when I have. Thank you for the sound advice. I will begin to shop around for bargains.
So glad you learned to "manage the household servants." LOL Our family is working hard to get out of debt and this hub is very encouraging. Thanks for sharing!
I loved this one, great information! I only wish I could sew, I would certainly save myself a load of cash.
maggs, this is brimful of great ideas. My kids are off to college, leaving Jack and I with debts beyond our ears. I am taking stock of your philosophical pov, i.e., credit cards as servants. I began this last weekend... must have been preparing for reinforcements from this great hub. I voted you thumbs UP! Keep up the great and inspiring work.
This is a very inspiring hub! I also got out of debt and it took hard work and dedication
I agree. Making adjustments to only purchasing what is needed and learning how to stretch a dollar is a life learned lesson. Times got so tough for me that when I finally got control of my expenses I still follow many of the lessons I learned like shopping for bargains and take pride getting good quality for spending a little money. Wow, great read and it shows getting out of debt can be done while enriching our lives.
I have walked in the shoes your article talks about. Got out of them very much the same way you did. Cut up the cards and paid off the lowest balances first, worked up the line till they were all paid off. Unlike you I am now buried about as deep as I was before, and going into default on some of my credit. I am in business but not earning enough to pay things off, just kept going deeper in trying to make enough sales to off set the debt payments. I am on a sales trip now and if things don't turn around soon, I am going to be cutting cards for the last time after I get home. I would tonight but then I wouldn't have the money to get home.
Nice to find you here! Great hub and congrats--we now have a plan and stick to it--slowly digging ourselves out--


































Candie V Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago
You are a dream and very brave.. good solid counsel!! Thanks Maggs, give Malc a sweet kiss on the cheek for me *to give back to you* and you dog a good scruffle!
Love ya maggs!